The guys start off the discussion with Dan’s favorite east coast treat, Old Bay. They dive into food and deciding whether to charge into a dugout of opposing players is a good idea (it’s not). Dan and Bob recap the previous week’s discussions about physics in baseball and list their top 3 places they would loot – hypothetically. Enjoy!

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Episode 48 Transcript

Dan Blewett:   all right, folks. Welcome back. This is the morning brush brushback episode 48. I’m your cohost Dan Blewett. I’m joined here remotely in a, in Chicago, still intact. Bobby is Chicago still there? We’re in what’s happening.

Bobby Stevens: It’s debatable. We’re rioting. We’re protesting again. We’re destroying Prada stores.

Dan Blewett: It does seem really debatable.

Bobby Stevens: How do you get insurance? If you’re, if your product right now, or a Louis Vuitton, it’s gotta be possible

Dan Blewett: for that individual story. You mean? Yeah. I mean, here’s the thing, like we were, you and I were talking about this and. What did they lose like a million dollars in inventory from their store,

Bobby Stevens: which was only like

Dan Blewett: retail price, you

Bobby Stevens: know, like realistically it’s only six handbags

Dan Blewett: for product.

That’s true. The stores are so [00:01:00] empty, it’s creepy. But like even in the Apple store, like you’ll lose a hundred laptops that costs a thousand dollars each on average or whatever that laptop cost Apple 150 bucks to manufacturer. And Apple sneezes, Apple as a company, Apple wipes, its nose with a million dollars of inventory.

Like I don’t think they care at all. You know what I mean? Like they care, but I can’t imagine just having a dense finances is a trillion dollar company.

Bobby Stevens: We went after the Apple store again, uh, near my house, actually both of them.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. They went through that for the Lincoln park one. Can you track.

Bobby Stevens: Can’t you track all Apple

Dan Blewett: devices.

That’s a good point. I was talking to someone else about that. These all have serial numbers, like Apple knows all their inventory in that story. For sure. That seems like a very valid point.

Bobby Stevens: Like these you’d have to send these to what Europe or something for them to be basically hidden from. I don’t know, being [00:02:00] found

Dan Blewett: one, like why,

Bobby Stevens: why are where’s my insider info?

I’m in Chicago. I didn’t know. We were alluding

Dan Blewett: to yet again, the tweets. Yeah, man. I could

Bobby Stevens: have used a diaper bag for, from Prada.

Dan Blewett: Sign up for their newsletter. It’s on, it’s like a MailChimp newsletter. I think.

Bobby Stevens: Here I am blindsided. Like they’re right down the street from my house. There’s the Robin, the CBD store, the Robin Apple.

And I’m sitting here tweeting, like, can I get an heads up? You know, sometimes you want to be in. You want to be an inclusive group. Include every

Dan Blewett: well you’ve got a, you’ve got a little, a little one on the way.

Bobby Stevens: Yeah. Times are tough.

Dan Blewett: I’m going to go get some diapers, man. Go get some powder, like

Bobby Stevens: get these guys are at targets, doing fret flatscreens I’m over there taking formula and we’ll be

Dan Blewett: well, speaking of things acquired illegally or I’m sorry.

Acquired legally, legally, illegally. I bought this this morning at the grocery store.

Bobby Stevens: Stole it.

Dan Blewett: Old Bay hot sauce.

Bobby Stevens: What [00:03:00] is it they brand or is that is like Tabasco that,

Dan Blewett: Oh no, this is all by brand. This came out in the field. Fall and an immediately sold out online, like in 30 minutes, which is not surprising,

Bobby Stevens: that looks

Dan Blewett: Oh, and it’s great.

It’s everything I thought it would be. See, this is funny because I make a sauce called comment sauce named after my sister’s dog. And it’s just a wing sauce. It’s a Buffalo sauce, old Bay and ranch mix. Those three together. It’s incredible. It’s pretty good. This tastes a lot like it obviously minus the ranch.

So I beat you to the punch old Bay, but I’m very happy to support when my close to the heart brands.

Bobby Stevens: Now, would you, would you throw that in a shot of Malort? I will.

Dan Blewett: Absolutely. I would

Bobby Stevens: just down, yeah, down here, lock alum

Dan Blewett: today. Today’s a big day. All my brands are out.

Bobby Stevens: Have you been out and [00:04:00] about already today?

Dan Blewett: I went for, I went for a walk to the grocery store.

Bobby Stevens: What’s the, what’s the grocery store out there. Wegmans

Dan Blewett: a there’s a giant, there’s a safe way. There’s a trader Joe’s. Um, and then they just start to repeat. Those are like the main brands, I guess, in, within DC, proper.

Bobby Stevens: So Wagman’s great. East coast grocery store.

Dan Blewett: It’s a lifesaver Wegmans was how I ate for most of my two years in Camden, New Jersey as a river shark

Bobby Stevens: magic spot.

Dan Blewett: Well it’s cause if, if you want to actually eat, healthy-ish you go to Wegmans, they have this huge, hot and cold bar and you can get a $6 meal, which includes an entree and like two sides.

And the entrees are like lemon, chicken, or another. Good protein. And then you get like green beans or broccoli or sweet potatoes or sweet potato fries or mashed with like, and then you just get like, that’s your meal? And it’s actually good food that’s it was six bucks at the time. I don’t know if it’s still a [00:05:00] $6 meal now, but magical place.

Magical the Wegmans

Bobby Stevens: magical. All right. So what’s on the agenda today. What do we got?

Dan Blewett: But first, since we, you just brought up grocery store, let’s talk about that book. I was still reading because it’s I’m, I’m about done it. It’s called antifragile. He talks about lots of different stuff. One, and this is one of the thing I’m interested in your opinion on, because it really got me thinking he discusses, like we talked about this term before antifragile is like, system’s getting stronger over time when I’m exposed to stress.

Right. Talked a lot about medicine and food and all these other things, right. Basically his rule and this guy’s very arrogant. It’s hard to listen to him at a lot of the books. He’s so arrogant, but. He talks about how so? For example, he says, well, nature tests, everything really, really well. If you want to feed your family safe foods or take medicines that are deemed safe, like [00:06:00] nature figures it out pretty well, much more so than anything else.

He was talking about icing. Like he broke his nose and he’s in the doctor’s office. Like, Hey, let’s put this ice pack on it, get the swelling down. And he’s like, why? He’s like, my body has learned to produce swelling as a response to. An injury over the course of thousands and thousands of years, why would I want to stop that?

Like, do we have any, any good evidence for stopping that? And the doctor’s like, eh, so that’s kind of guy is just, he’s terrible.

Bobby Stevens: Just take the ice and go home.

Dan Blewett: But like, so yeah. So there’s a lot of examples. Like you talked about even about apples, how he grew up. Uh, I can’t remember where he’s from. I think he’s from the middle East, but.

When he was a kid, apples were just these little kind of like crab Apple. He kind of like not super sweet, but then their bread over time hybridized to be very, very sweet. He said even the modern Apple is probably not that healthy for us in the sense that it hasn’t been around that long. And the composition of it has been like [00:07:00] essentially altered by us, which that’s not new, like we’ve GMO stuff like that.

Right. Right. So he basically just got me thinking about. Processes in the human life and diet and medicine, all this stuff. And trying to think of like what things have been really time tested, like really time tested. And those are the things you really want to include in your diet. Like all these artificial sweeteners.

Probably get it probably going to be bad, proven, very bad for humankind, like 20 years from now, but we’ll probably be like, that was a really bad 50 years. And we gave a lot of people cancer and we did a lot of like, whatever it is, like very short period of time in human history. Have we had artificial sweeteners and artificial flavors and like all these different things.

Right. So it, so that’s probably not a new sentiment for a lot of people who are very into eating natural stuff. And, but anyway, what’s your take on that?

Bobby Stevens: Um, well, someone who eats primarily organic, I would, let’s say that you can [00:08:00] Def like my wife can, when you feel a difference, when she eats organic versus non-organic and sheets clean versus, you know, what’s considered not clean, I guess, dirty, dirty, like dirty food.

Where

Dan Blewett: does old Bay hot sauce fall in the spectrum?

Bobby Stevens: Honestly, hot sauce is usually pretty clean. Uh, If you look at the ingredients, if you look at the ingredients in hot sauces, like Tabasco, there’s really not like, so turn any, anytime I go shopping, like I’ve, I basically learned from my wife, like what to look for.

And if you look at the back of any packaging, there’s so many fillers of things that don’t sound like food.

Dan Blewett: Yeah.

Bobby Stevens: And then when they make it, it’s so difficult for you to buy real food, like organic apples and nonorganic apples are, you know, There’s it’s half the cost to buy a nonorganic, Apple, and I get it because you can’t grow them as fast as you can, and you can’t spray them [00:09:00] with whatever and make them double the, make them double the size and half the time, same thing with chickens, or like, you know, beef, you feed them corn and fattens them up immediately.

Whereas if you want to cow graze, it takes them three times as long to get. To get to normal size. So I’m, uh, I agree. I mean, I agree with that, that sentiment that like

Dan Blewett: the world is, you know,

Bobby Stevens: the body’s kind of figured out what’s best for the body. You know, earth has figured out what’s best for earth, and then we keep genetically modifying all this stuff.

I mean, I can get into a lot of like, or I eat organic all the time. Like wait organic tacos yesterday. Um, like non, uh, vegetarian tacos yesterday tasted great. Everything tastes fine. Like I don’t, I view food as kind of like fuel. I’m not really like going out to delicacy just because it’s

Dan Blewett: funny you say that because there’s a trend going on that.

People are referring to [00:10:00] eating as fueling, or I like absolutely hate that term. Like fueling, fueling for athletes eating. Why are we calling it fueling and not a race car? It’s

Bobby Stevens: eating. I wouldn’t, it’s not, that’s a bad. Fuelings fuels.

Dan Blewett: Wasn’t saying you were saying that I was, you know, on our tangent.

Bobby Stevens: I know, but I feel like fuel it, like fueling it’s like fuel the body gotta feed the beast, right?

Like that’s what it was like weightlifters saying. No, just you you’re eating, but are you eating stuff to, because it’s like, are you going out and getting an actual large pizza with extra cheese and extra.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. Does anyone do that anymore?

Bobby Stevens: People do that

Dan Blewett: 20 years ago or you get extra cheese. It’s like, no, no one

Bobby Stevens: does that.

We’ll get it at some places. Cause they like, they skimp on the cheese cause they’re lazy and she’s expensive, but she’s also another like Jesus, not, she’s not something that’s good for you for your body. Like your body doesn’t process cheese. Like.

Dan Blewett: Well,

[00:11:00] Bobby Stevens: like, like, uh, like it would process a vegetable and organic vegetable.

Like it’s, she’s essentially a foreign substance in your body. Like,

Dan Blewett: but what, but what evidence do you have for that? Like who like says, who is my question?

Bobby Stevens: So like, there’s a lot of, so how I would, how I would categorize it is things that. Inflame your body like, like sugar, like granulated sugar, white, sugar

Dan Blewett: inflammation stuff is very not proven.

That’s like a, that’s a very hokey holistic thing. That’s right. Definitely fair. Wouldn’t

Bobby Stevens: call. I wouldn’t call it hokey. I mean, so. I’ve noticed it more like personally, like if I eat something I haven’t eaten in a long time, let’s say cookies or something. Like I’ll feel like swollen, like my

Dan Blewett: hands, just because you feel different doesn’t mean you can call that inflamed, like, Oh, what’d you call it?

That’s a, it’s a. It’s just a garbage term. It’s just a big, weird catch. All that people started using because inflammation is like a bad thing. Like, Oh, my joints are inflamed. This is inflamed [00:12:00] eating this bad food causes my body to be in your body is not in a constant state of inflammation. That’s not how it works.

Inflammation crew

Bobby Stevens: there’s no, there’s no, I mean, I’m not gonna, I don’t,

Dan Blewett: well, you don’t want it. You don’t want it. You want to debate me. Well,

Bobby Stevens: you don’t know anything?

Dan Blewett: Maybe, maybe, maybe there’s no, I do know. I do know a lot about it actually, but I am not up on Breitbart news to, to know your source.

Bobby Stevens: This is medicine.

That’s not, it’s not right wing right wing.

Dan Blewett: Probably. You don’t believe in vaccines.

Bobby Stevens: That’s not true. I believe in vaccines.

Dan Blewett: I don’t believe in the schedule. That’s not because that

Bobby Stevens: one it’s not test. We don’t, we’ve admitted. We have no idea what this virus is. And all of a sudden we’re just gonna willfully inject people with it.

That’s insanity. We don’t know what it

Dan Blewett: is. What are you,

Bobby Stevens: what, with this viruses? That’s

Dan Blewett: diagonal.

Bobby Stevens: No, we don’t know all. We don’t know all the way you need to know about this virus. It’s been around for four months. [00:13:00] Viruses are also not double, but there’s no double blind tests.

Dan Blewett: Well, in a year, they come out with an FDA approved vaccine.

Bobby Stevens: FDA is FDA is as corrupt as anybody.

Dan Blewett: So there’s basically no one we can ever trust for medicine again, is that what you’re saying? That seems to be your overall thesis, that we just can’t trust anything in medicine and that’s definitely not true.

Bobby Stevens: What do you

Dan Blewett: do far is too far reaching to say every person’s corrupt because there’s money there.

And that is a problem. That’s actually talked about that on book two, that money is a problem. That you cannot say every person is corrupt. No, you,

Bobby Stevens: you, if you worked for the FDA, you wouldn’t be corrupt, but you take your direction from the top. So if the top is corrupt, essentially it trickles down all the way to the, to the lower, similar to like the similar to somewhat like the FBI, like need to corrupt one person to corrupt everybody.

And it’s not that they know they’re being corrupted. They’re just doing what they have to what they’re being told. Like, if they’re told to drop a case, they dropped the case from the [00:14:00] superior.

Dan Blewett: That’s too far reaching of a, of a definition for corruption. That’s way too far reaching. Um, you know, the FDA, like we have very good food standards.

You know, people don’t die from eating bad cottage cheese. They don’t mean so many people could be dying from botulism, all these different food, more things because of the work of the FDA. You realize that right. I live in a very safe society because of the work of the FDA,

Bobby Stevens: but it’s not dying. It’s. Like Def it’s not, we’re being fed things that aren’t even food, but it’s

Dan Blewett: considered yeah.

Consumption people. Yeah. People have choices still.

Bobby Stevens: Hey, that’s, that’s a great point. And I couldn’t agree with you. More people have people should have the choice, right? I’m not saying you, they, they shouldn’t be able to go to McDonald’s. But the fact that some of the things that are being sold to you as good food, aren’t good food.

They’re not essentially, they’re not even food.

Dan Blewett: What do you think about the product? What do you think about the polio vaccine? We erratic. Cause we eradicate, we eradicated polio, which was a terrible disease. Okay. [00:15:00] But what was the survival rate of,

Bobby Stevens: but what was the survival rate of polio by the time the vaccine

Dan Blewett: came out?

I don’t know. Why would I know that? Well, why

Bobby Stevens: would I know anything about the polio vaccine? That’s

Dan Blewett: like, what did that, but this is like common knowledge that we’ve eradicated a really terrible disease that hurt a lot of people through vaccines. No, it isn’t for sure. From vaccine.

Bobby Stevens: Why is it from vaccines?

The polio was, had a survival rate of what? Before the

Dan Blewett: vaccine. No nonsense way. No. You can look this up. The history, the reason

Bobby Stevens: Taleo is gone. You cannot, you cannot tell me the reason the coronavirus. All right. So let’s relate it back to coronavirus. It’s 99.86% survival rate. What do you need a vaccine for that?

For.

Dan Blewett: You you’re really in coronavirus into the fact that [00:16:00] it’s like, there’s proven true that we got rid of polio.

Bobby Stevens: We got re we got rid of polio. How.

Dan Blewett: Uh, by vaccinating enough of the population where it then went away.

Bobby Stevens: That’s, what’s your proof of that? Like,

Dan Blewett: how will my approve

Bobby Stevens: what’s your proof dibs, if, because there’s no more polio doesn’t mean the vaccine is the reason the reason could be our immune systems figured it out.

Like there could be a million reasons. The reasons could be the polio, the polio itself got weaker. The disease got weaker. Like there’s no.

Dan Blewett: Why would you try to find a much more complicated way? Because that’s a simple one, which is.

Bobby Stevens: Cause your simple one is fitting your narrative of that. The vaccine is the reason that it’s gone.

It’s not necessarily, there’s no evidence of that. Show me the evidence. If you show me the evidence, I’ll believe you.

Dan Blewett: There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of history of it on the web. There’s a [00:17:00] lot of history.

Bobby Stevens: There is. I will tag. I will tag you in some of it, but we have a flu vaccine. We haven’t gotten rid of the flu.

We

Dan Blewett: have a flu strain chambers every year.

Bobby Stevens: Okay. So how do you know the polio vaccine didn’t just change? And we were, we could protect ourselves from it

Dan Blewett: fall. So it says here, following a mass immunization campaign in the fifties, annual polio cases fell from 35,000 to 5,604 years later in 1961 and night in 1961, only 161 cases.

Bobby Stevens: Okay. 35,000 is I would argue. Uh, insignificant number of

Dan Blewett: cases, 35,000 or was it reduced to 161? You don’t think that’s statistically significant that absolute 35000% reduction. That’s a huge reduction, no matter what percentage of the population, it doesn’t matter. It’s it does the annual [00:18:00] that’s the annual yeah.

The

Bobby Stevens: us population were unaffected by polio. Like granted it’s great for those 34,900 people, but.

Dan Blewett: No, that makes you know, that makes no sense that line of argumentation, right? That’s like saying, Hey, 35,000 people were killed in cars. We saved point and then we acted and then we acted and we reduced car deaths from 35,000 a year to a hundred.

You would say we didn’t do anything. It would have happened by random chance or that wasn’t important because it’s a small percent of the population that that’s nonsensical reasons. You’re,

Bobby Stevens: it’s polio, not if 99%. Plus the people would have survived polio regardless. No, I don’t think the vaccine made that much difference.

It’s not like 50% of the people were dying. This isn’t bird box.

Dan Blewett: That’s not as standard for saying that something that’s something improved, something. This was clear that it reduced. Okay.

Bobby Stevens: I

Dan Blewett: would still, I would still,

Bobby Stevens: I would still not. I would not take, I would take my [00:19:00] 99.5% chance. I’m not going to die from polio because why am I going to inject myself with something that’s going to give me the deadly virus?

When I already have

Dan Blewett: the notebook. Oh, don’t, you know, people don’t get from inactive viruses. Right. That’s not how it works. You don’t get flu from flu shot.

Bobby Stevens: And what do you then, what do you take it for?

Dan Blewett: It’s an activated.

Bobby Stevens: So what is it for

Dan Blewett: them? It’s an activated in your body produces antibodies because it’s like, this is then why are there,

Bobby Stevens: what are the additives and what are the

Dan Blewett: middle of the middles?

Bobby Stevens: I’m I’m doing

Dan Blewett: it. Let’s just get it back. Let’s get back to the fact that you think. Just because most of the population doesn’t get something it’s not worth trying to eradicate it. People really suffered from polio. It was a really terrible disease, a crippled. And what have you had five kids back in the fifties, Bobby, and you say, Hey guys, know 99, 99%

Bobby Stevens: of the people example.

Dan Blewett: No, it’s, you’re saying that it doesn’t matter because it enhances

Bobby Stevens: your right here related to today. I [00:20:00] will absolutely no shot in hell. Take the coronavirus vaccine. No shot in hell there’s apps, because I have a 99.8, 6% chance of surviving this. I’m more likely to walk outside and get hit by a bus at this point.

That doesn’t mean I’m not going to walk outside. Like yeah. If I get hit by a bus, that’s terrible. Like maybe we should have did away with buses, but I don’t

Dan Blewett: know. That’s good. It’s not a good analogy. No,

Bobby Stevens: I’m not going to take

Dan Blewett: the virus. Well, I’m not gonna take this vaccine. That’s fine. But.

Bobby Stevens: There’s no reason to take it.

Dan Blewett: No, they’re definitely, they’re definitely their reason. And the reasons is to prevent needless suffering. Like you could take it and have a much less likelihood of getting it, but your, and then prevent yourself is suffering

Bobby Stevens: protect you.

Dan Blewett: You’re except for the 150,000 people that died, didn’t break them.

Okay. And how many you don’t compromise and you don’t know if that was, could, could you or not?

Bobby Stevens: Yeah, I don’t know, but I’m, I’m willing to take the chance of something that I do know my own body.

Dan Blewett: And then going back to pull and then go back to polio. It’s [00:21:00] certainly drastically affected people thousand people.

That’s

Bobby Stevens: not, it’s a small portion of the population. That’s a, that’s a minuscule portion of the population affected by it,

Dan Blewett: but still those people, but still it’s the evidence for those people.

Bobby Stevens: But those people already died. So that’s an irrelevant, as in part of the statistics

Dan Blewett: we’re going to move on. This was fast. I want to know those people, get the facts

Bobby Stevens: scene and die.

Dan Blewett: No,

Bobby Stevens: those 35,000 people didn’t get the vaccine and die. So they’re not, they’re not incorporated into the statistics. They might’ve been compromised already. They might’ve had pneumonia. They might’ve had a diff they might have cancer.

Like there’s no. They died for whatever reason they weren’t vaccinated and then died, correct or incorrect.

Dan Blewett: I don’t know what you’re saying. I stopped listening. Um, let’s move on. Let’s get back to mob you. [00:22:00] Well, it wasn’t nothing in the last bunch of us has been rational. So, um, did you see the MLP brawl with the AF the Astros and the athletics?

Bobby Stevens: I wish I would. Would’ve beat the hell out of all the Astros. Did you hear what the guy said? The guy says something about his mother. He said, so we went after him. That was the story. I

Dan Blewett: mean, that doesn’t really get me far out, like whatever 

Bobby Stevens: it was hit three times and then they’re going to talk shit to me.

Like I like I’m the piece of crap. Yeah. My, I might, I might take a run at the dugout. That guy’s also a monster. If you

Dan Blewett: Marianna.

Bobby Stevens: Yeah.

Dan Blewett: It’s huge missiles from the outfield. It was just a weird, he like ran in there and then was immediately like, kind of like dove on the ground. I don’t know. Sometimes it feels, I’m sure it’s not easy to, I had never found myself in a bra.

Um, there just don’t seem to be like good punches thrown very often. [00:23:00] That’s good. Hello. Bryce Harper got a good rice Harper had a good. Punch and he missed what was that against James Shields too good. Like mrs. Coco, Chris, but a good punch. Like no one, even knowing Ryan’s thing with Ryan Ventura in which the anniversary that was like last month or something, it was like Robin Ventura ran right into his arms.

It was real, it was weird at the last minute. He like, didn’t have the guts to throw a punch at Nolan. And he just like tried to tackle him, which was clearly not the move. And, uh, Yeah, it’s hard to sort of figure that out.

Bobby Stevens: I’m all for it.

Dan Blewett: There’s a lot of ground to cover in Oakland Coliseum. This was my big thing.

It’s a far run from first base to the dugout.

Bobby Stevens: You can’t, you don’t go after let’s talk brawl strategy. You don’t go after the dugout and 25 guys, you go after like the single guy, like, you know what? Maybe he’s in a relationship. Maybe he’s not, but to go after the guy standing alone, And hope that you can get a few good [00:24:00] punches in before the crew.

Of his past. He gets there to just tackle you and beat the hell out of you on the ground. You can’t go after you don’t run into a crowd

Dan Blewett: of

Bobby Stevens: 30 guys. You got to go after that, you got a single guy. Find the bat, boy, single somebody out. Get after that

Dan Blewett: guy, find the bad boy in a golf shirt. You go up to your kids.

Perfect.

Bobby Stevens: You gotta go. What if

Dan Blewett: he’s got what? The bad boys polio. Should he go? Did you go fight him then?

Bobby Stevens: No, your immune system will probably protect you so you should be good.

Dan Blewett: Got it. Got it. Um, so your season has wrapped up and have you gone through tryouts? What is what’s the current state of amateur baseball?

Bobby Stevens: Amateur baseball is a train wreck right now. So tryouts obviously have been their star. This is like normal trout season, right? For the last like five weeks. But we’ve got teams that are still playing. Like we’ve got, we’ve got youth teams still playing, uh, certain programs of high school teams still [00:25:00] playing.

And usually, I mean, I’m sure you guys did this as well. Like you ask for a commitment after the kid tries out, usually like seven to 10 days, you give them to decide just based, purely on, you know, you don’t want to have trials for two months. You want to just Glock the rosters up and go, and it’s getting harder because a lot of parents want to wait until, you know, especially some of these youth teams, like if you’re run by, at one of the local dads, you don’t know if the team’s going to break up, like usually wait till the end of the season.

It said talk to the coach. So it’s been, it’s been what I would consider a difficulty in travel baseball. Um, but nothing, I mean, other than obviously, so the coronavirus stuff, nothing, uh, nothing too crazy with tryouts. You’re just trying to, you’re just trying to get a feel on where everybody, you know, what their plans are and, and go from

Dan Blewett: there.

So how many teams are you guys going to have next year?

Bobby Stevens: That’s a great question. I don’t know. We’ve got, we [00:26:00] had 20 teams this year. I would imagine we probably have one or two more just based on how many kids showed up at tryouts, but the really difficult part. I don’t know. I don’t know how you guys did it, Dan, but I don’t split the teams off until after we see them practice a little bit in the winter.

Like I won’t break them off in a or B. So what I’m really trying to do is, is basically sign up kids in like groups of 12. So I have full teams. Cause if I sign up, you know, if they’re 10 years old and I sign up 30 kids or 28 kids, that’s essentially not enough for three teams. Right. And I don’t want to leave kids out, like hung out to dry, so to speak.

So it’s kind of like, I really try and invite in groups of 12 to make sure I have enough for a team. So when you have like low numbers at an age group, like 13, you, we had lower numbers this year. So I only invited enough for one team. I didn’t want to invite 18 kids and then [00:27:00] be stuck with like 15 commits.

And then you’ve got three kids who basically are not going to be on a team. And you’ve got to tell them after the fact like, Hey, we don’t have a spot for you, which is all, which is like the worst thing that to have to do to somebody.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. It’s, it’s tough when you have those in between numbers. I don’t know.

We didn’t ever have a good situation for that, but we didn’t have to cross that bridge too many times. I guess we’d only had youth aged teams for a couple of years, so. I don’t know

Bobby Stevens: a few things. That’s

Dan Blewett: important. Formation is hard. Team formation is hard,

Bobby Stevens: especially with fall ball, fall balls. Like you basically, he asked for a commitment for next summer, and then you ask anyone, do they want to play fall and fall is also an additional cost.

So you like

Dan Blewett: making them

Bobby Stevens: double kind of double dip and they have to pay twice just to get into fall. And then I’m still trying to figure out the best way to go about incorporating fall ball.

Dan Blewett: The best way is just to never play it. Fall. Ball is the worst

Bobby Stevens: you [00:28:00] have to this year, you have to play fall ball.

Dan Blewett: You don’t, you do.

Bobby Stevens: I don’t. All right. So you I’m sure you probably still have some of your former players reach out and even, probably just people online, online, online coach Dan blue, coach Dan blewett@twitter.com.

Dan Blewett: A twitter.com. That’s all that it’s all handles work.

Bobby Stevens: I dunno, who knows twitter.com/coach Dan blue backslash.

Uh, go on, I would say this year more than any, you have to play fall ball, especially in Illinois. So I don’t know how the other States are. I don’t know if Maryland’s playing football in the fall. Um, So Illinois has canceled all sports through January one, except for golf and golf and like cross country.

So if you’re a high school athlete, you’re not starting sports until January one, but baseball is allowed like currently baseball is a sport that you can play and you can do it. That’s why I thought really thought they were going to switch the high school season from spring to fall. They didn’t do that.

[00:29:00] So now you’ve got football season basketball and baseball starting. You know, after January, which is going to really make it a shortened season. So this is really, I mean, you can have a good two month fall baseball season and get in a lot more games. I mean, it seems like, especially with how many trials we’ve had so far, everyone’s interested in fall and I

Dan Blewett: get it.

I get that. Yeah. I just, uh, I I’m with you. I hate negative negative emotions towards fall ball. I just did as a kid, hated it.

Bobby Stevens: It’s just not, it’s just not like, I don’t know. What’s

Dan Blewett: so bad about it, but it was so bad. It was so bad.

Bobby Stevens: I like the idea of fall baseball. I hate the execution of fall baseball.

Dan Blewett: Cause yeah, I was normal years and like new players and it was a sh like 16 games.

I just was like, why am I here? Who are you coach? Do you know anything? Like, who are you? What, what am I [00:30:00] doing?

Bobby Stevens: It’s really, it’s really just, I look at it from a cost, like to run a good fall season. You almost have to charge the same as you would for the summer season. Cause you’re really cause you’re going to be playing the same amount.

You’re trying to play, like people kind of look at falls, like secondary baseball where it’s Oh, we’re just going to play on the weekends. Like, well, that’s essentially what summer baseball is for high school kids. Anyways, you play on the weekends.

Dan Blewett: Well, can you stop doing tournament’s? Can you just hire two empires and get a field or does that not could,

Bobby Stevens: but then it kind of, you know, Which we are doing a little bit, but that alienates, I would say some of the portion who a lot of these big tournaments happen in the fall, like Fort Myers, West Palm beach, Jupiter, uh, Westfields Cedar Rapids kernels.

Like there’s some big tournaments that happen in the

Dan Blewett: fall.

Bobby Stevens: And a lot of good teams will go to those. And a lot of coaches will go to those.

Dan Blewett: Like,

Bobby Stevens: there’s been a ton of. In the past years past where I’ve [00:31:00] gone to fall tournaments, tons of college recruiters there, I guess it depends on what age group we’re talking about though.

Dan Blewett: If

Bobby Stevens: we’re talking about youth kids, 13 year olds, you got rent a field, get an empire and just play some

Dan Blewett: games still expensive though.

Bobby Stevens: Everything’s expensive.

Dan Blewett: What’d she happen? What just happened? There was, there was a loud noise. You’re on your own errand. Uh, okay, so let’s shift gears. Let’s talk about some of the stuff we learned last week. Obviously a big baseball physics week for us, Alan, Nathan, Barton Smith, lot of vacant staring from both of us. What happened there?

What were some of your interesting takeaways, Robert? I think

Bobby Stevens: Alan was, Alan was more interesting

Dan Blewett: cause like exploded by the way, like something happened. Hello? It’s broken. Hello? Still sound all right.

Bobby Stevens: Yeah. Alright. I think Alan was more, Alan was more interesting to me because [00:32:00] I understood him better. Like he made it a lot simpler than Barton did.

Which is not to say that Barton was unintelligent about what he was talking about. I just think Alan was easier to relate for someone who has no physics background whatsoever, which I do not interesting. Cause it was. Barton was mainly about pitch like the seams and the pitching and the base of the flight of the ball.

Whereas Allen, we jumped around a little bit. So as a hitter,

Dan Blewett: I can relate a little more. Yeah. And Allen’s toddlers were definitely a little more concrete Barton’s topics were a little more abstract, right? Like you had to kind of visualize. This, this, the spinning of the ball, even though you had some good visuals, like there, there’s just a lot there to get through, like you said, and for me as well, watching his presentation before the podcast try to be prepared, like it was, it was just a lot of new aerodynamic stuff.

That’s not like you just run through a 45 minute presentation. You just like, get it all right away. Like it just, it takes a lot of clarification. I think he did a good job of that as well, but you’re right. It’s just, it’s just [00:33:00] more abstract. Complex kind of stuff. I mean like fluid dynamics and all that was, he did, it’s not easy to Laymanites if that’s a word.

Bobby Stevens: Right. The thing with, with Barton’s was it’s like I kept catching myself thinking like common sense. Or is this not common sense? Like

Dan Blewett: the general? Yeah. Like,

Bobby Stevens: yeah, obviously like, uh, like to me, yeah. Obviously if you hold the ball with the seams differently, like it might do something different just because.

The seams are like, it’s not like throwing a cue ball where it’s a perfectly round sphere. Like yeah, there’s some, there’s going to be some difference in, uh, you know, the way like how the ball wind, you know, air comes off the ball and pressure and all that stuff. So to me that was like, is this common sense?

Or am I thinking about it wrong? And I was like, questioning my own understanding of

Dan Blewett: a lot of what he was saying. And

Bobby Stevens: I did catch a little bit of it when I left. Like I turned it down while I was driving. Uh, So [00:34:00] I jumped on a phone call.

Dan Blewett: Oh, thank you so much for throwing us a bone and listening

Bobby Stevens: to

Dan Blewett: your own show.

Bobby Stevens: I tried to talk on Periscope, but nobody’s listening to

Dan Blewett: me. Yeah, I still don’t understand Periscope. It’s like the worst Paul, like why is it a different platform? It makes no sense. Periscope is just like nonsense.

Bobby Stevens: I liked that. I liked that it links to Twitter. Like it’s got some useful purposes. It’s just,

Dan Blewett: just kill it and make it Twitter.

Like you’re just on Twitter. You just do Twitter video. Like, why is Periscope a thing it’s so stupid. It’s the dumbest thing. Like it was a separate company. Twitter bought them. And then like, Hey, we can still keep you as a separate company as a separate app. And we’ll just like, make them integrate, but they’ll be really confusing and hard to use and not really make any sense and be the same colors as Twitter.

It’s just like, it’s a bunch of nonsense. It’s ridiculous.

Bobby Stevens: Or if you’re Twitter and worth $10 billion, why don’t you just make your own

Dan Blewett: pair of is though, like, this is like the worst run company. Like they have a part time CEO, Jack Dorsey is also the CEO of square, [00:35:00] the payments company. He’s like they’re half the time they’ve been trying to get him kicked off, like get a new, like an actual full time CEO.

The stock, like does nothing, the, a, their technology, like selling ads, like they’re garbage compared to like Facebook and these other companies that have really sophisticated targeting and all this. I mean, Facebook as a really powerful, even though Facebook’s like an evil corporation, like Twitter just sucks at pretty much everything, but people like it.

So

Bobby Stevens: I love Twitter. I love Twitter.

Dan Blewett: I come to enjoy a little bit more, um, It’s it still is like the worst in everybody.

Bobby Stevens: It’s a cesspool, but it’s good. It’s instant information

Dan Blewett: and

Bobby Stevens: it’s simple. Like it’s a V it’s a simple platform to use.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. Well, so my things with, uh, the physics talks, so the, the thing that that’s all.

New. And it was new to me is the idea of the wake behind the ball, just like, you know, Waco of a boat. [00:36:00] And the fact that if it’s like the wake is up, it’s putting pressure down the ball if the week is down and it’s, it’s, it’s hard to, it’s interesting to visualize it that way, because you don’t think about that, but obviously that’s the way the aerodynamics are.

Um, and the, do you know that like the two seamer is the same as before? If there’s no. Like sort of like a wobbliness added to it, basically like the human error component, which I thought that was really interesting. And it’s had me actually ever an email. I need to respond to

Bobby Stevens: that. Like, that’s kind of my point.

Isn’t that like the, the common sense part of it. Like if you hold it different, it’s. Like he kept saying everything, not enough. I said a vacuum and he’s like, and he said, not necessarily a vacuum, all things equal. Well, I would assume if all things equal, like all be the

Dan Blewett: same, that’s the same ball,

Bobby Stevens: right?

Dan Blewett: Like if

Bobby Stevens: you throw out, cause I w I’m assuming like four seam, two seam is still spec got backspin going straight.

[00:37:00] Dan Blewett: He was just saying that in his lab, they have a cannon that shoots balls and they always have like perfect spin. Like, because of the way it is. Like you shoot a gun, it’s always going to have like perfect.

Because it has grooves cut. It has the, you know, the, the. Rifling cut into the barrel. So it makes the bullets spin a certain way, right? His machine is the same way. So he says, well, you know, I’m showing it to Summa rivers. There’s no difference because they have perfect batsmen, but in real life, because of the grip, for some reason, two seamers tend to do stuff.

Whereas four seamers tend to not do stuff, which is interesting. So it’s not really about the, the orientation of the ball. It’s about the interaction between the pitcher and the ball and the grip, which is, which is there. Pro nation. And it’s like something that assumption something in the way you hold it is.

And, and of course, but the other thing is that also makes sense to me. And it also corroborates what I’ve seen as an instructor. Cause one of my YouTube videos, that’s been getting a lot more traction recently just because [00:38:00] it’s baseball season is I have a long video about how the two seamer is not right for everybody and everyone.

This is what has been a point of view rotation for me, everyone’s like, Oh, you gotta throw a two seamer. You got all your getting hit, gotta throw a two seamer. Guthrow two steamer, most kids, two steamers don’t move. They just are straight. And they suck. And I’m like, yeah, why are we throwing a two seamer when you’re a two seamer is just a forcing, we’re just throw a four seamer.

And so his point corroborates that, that if you don’t have something on it, essentially it does, it’s not different. And people think it’s magic. I’ll just hear yeah. Team Tuesday and grip get those ground balls. And so he actually really how Val validate my feelings that. The two seamers, not different unless you make a difference.

So if you can’t actually make it, sync could actually make it run through finding a grip and tinkering it. And the way you’d naturally really the ball, then it’s, it’s not a better pitch. It’s just a straight pitch, like your fastball. So that was a, that’s a big win for my school of [00:39:00] thought, I guess. But, and that, again, that’s only been confirmed by observation, most youth players, their Tuesday MERS don’t do anything.

Yeah. Waste of time. They’re a waste of time. Yeah. And if anything, kids cut their two seamers way more. They cut it a lot.

Bobby Stevens: Maybe the thing about it, I guess, cause the two seam is different, even if it’s flying the same, if you’re a kid and you like, even if you’re a high school kid, you see

Dan Blewett: that

Bobby Stevens: you’re going to at least take a second.

Yeah. I guess on what you see and you’re not going to assume it’s a four seam fastball. It doesn’t look like a four seam fastball. So a little deception there, even if the ball’s not doing anything different. And I’ve mentioned that too. The curve ball that doesn’t break how it’s supposed to break. And you’re like, even when you recognize it as a hitter,

Dan Blewett: you’re like, what’s that?

Yeah. The greeter backup sliders, backup cutters, stuff like that.

Bobby Stevens: You definitely burned. Definitely had more props. He had the balls with the access, the access going through. True. And

Dan Blewett: those are good prompts. So I need to make some of those. Oh [00:40:00] yeah. There’s drill a hole on a ball and get a screwdriver. But yeah, he had some good props.

That’s, that’s that’s useful stuff because it is, it’s hard to visualize spin, especially slow spin. So if you’re taking a ball and you’re like doing the itsy bitsy spider thing, which I do, you know, like, Oh, it spins like this. You really can’t visualize what’s going on. Like when you see it actually spend, like, this is what’s going, gonna look like in a game.

That’s where I think it’s important. Um, but the one thing, and, and he, and I need to talk more about is the idea that you could throw a four-seam or that just like moves this way or that way with, if you get the seam shifted, wake that’s really fascinating. So I need to explore that idea a little more, um, And, and those things and the, and the funny thing about it is a lot of that stuff is stuff that pitchers don’t tinker with.

Like we don’t tinker with trying to make a four-seam remove, you know what I mean? Right. It’s just like, why would I do that when maybe there is a good reason to do that? And so that’s why some of these [00:41:00] outsiders, um, people that haven’t been ingrained in baseball to say, this is the way you do it, your whole life.

They can look at problems from a new perspective and say, why couldn’t it just do this? If I, if I do this or it can actually do this, if we do this and maybe it’s a viable thing, maybe it’s not. And that’s the other thing is like, just because you can make another, you could make your. Forcing remove or your two seam remove, or you could add this pitch or that pitch doesn’t mean it’s going to be a viable, big league pitch.

Like you, like, you might be able to do it gives do something, but it just doesn’t belong in your repertoire of your four best pitches or your three best pitches. That’s the other thing,

Bobby Stevens: what was the pitch? He was a Looper. What was the pitch? He was calling like that? Is it like a pitch that he invented or just that one of the guys throws that

Dan Blewett: it just falls between?

Yeah. It just like falls in between categories. Like it’s not like a disco ball chain jobs. Yeah.

Bobby Stevens: Turns over the top of the

Dan Blewett: baseball. Yeah. Kind of. And, uh, it just like, it doesn’t fall into any of those categories where [00:42:00] it’s kind of a new pitch based on the spin. And that’s really how pitches should be defined, I think is by their spin, which is how they are, you know, like.

And that was my part of my point too, which is that change ups never really had a defined spin. You just like picked a grip and hoped it went slow. And if it went slow than it was a change up right now, the disco ball change up, which is the one that I’ve been throwing in and kind of teaching for years plus or minus, it doesn’t sound like it’s maybe exactly the same, but it’s very, very similar if not exactly the same.

That’s like a pretty defined pitch. Like this is what we’re trying to make it do. And so let’s try to figure out how we can do that and then repeat it. And then if we get that spin, we know we’ve done it. Right. And that’s, I think the goal of, of pitch development is to have that cookie cutter and cookie cutter sounds bad, but it’s not like we just want to say, Hey, this is what good sliders do.

Let’s try to get into that cookie cutter, right? Because if, if Andrews, if Andrew Miller lighter spins like this. Like who doesn’t [00:43:00] want Andrew Miller slider right

Bobby Stevens: anymore. I used to just get the Rose slider. I don’t know if he does,

Dan Blewett: dude. It’s hard. It’s really hard. You have to just sort of explain it and let them throw it and throw it in, throw it, and it gets better over time.

It’s a hard one to teach. When

Bobby Stevens: first asked somebody I’m like, how do you throw a slider? I remember what, how old

Dan Blewett: I was, might have been college.

Bobby Stevens: And the guy was like, just grip it like this. He’s like, and throw it like you would throw a foot.

Dan Blewett: And I was like, and I’m like,

Bobby Stevens: what’s like football, but then I just did it.

And I like it. I mean, I wasn’t a pitcher obviously, but it would move. And as a position guy, your dream is to get on the mound. Always every game you’re getting blown out, the dream is to get on the

Dan Blewett: mountain.

Bobby Stevens: And throw your nasty slide or that you’ve been working on for years. So

Dan Blewett: that when you feel like

Bobby Stevens: when you play catch slider, it’s usually you try one breaking ball and then you always try throwing a knuckle ball.

If your position guy, there’s no reason that the Transworld knuckleball

Dan Blewett: is that clarity. No reason. No [00:44:00] reason not to. Yeah. Well, it is hard because you can’t really coach them through it, like with a curve ball, the split, and is easier to understand, like it just needs to have top spin, get to spend for it.

And if it’s not spinning really clean forward, and it’s got like a mixture in there, then you’re like, Hey, you kind of get on the side of that one, try to get to the front of it better, you know, mentally whatever with a slider. You’re putting a combination of spin on it. So you’re trying to get to the front of the ball, but you’re also kind of getting on the side of the ball.

It’s like, you release it here, then you come back through it. That’s where you add that second spin. Like you’re finished essentially adds the bullet, spin to it, the gyro spin while you’re trying to get to like the, the two o’clock part of the ball, essentially, if you’re a righty. And that doesn’t work on a kid.

You can’t say, Hey, try to get your fingers to two o’clock. Then come back through it. Like that’s nonsense. That’s not good for anybody, right? Yeah.

Bobby Stevens: Was in the beginning, like the screw, the light bulb and move when they transfer a slider. Cause they’re trying to like flick it.

Dan Blewett: Right. And it’s not [00:45:00] exactly like that as you know it.

Cause you don’t get on the side of it and that’s the common thing you don’t just like get on the side of it. Cause then it has almost like that disco ball spin. Right. You have to get to the front of it. And that’s the thing. A lot of people are missing. I remember there was a kid on the web, but he’s like probably 25 now.

And I remember like, kind of following him as he was like working hard, trying to throw 95 miles per hour or whatever. Um, it seems like a nice guy and he, uh, I saw, I saw him like either writing or posting something on Twitter about a couple of years ago that he was like, someone just told him that he’s supposed to get to the front of his slider.

And I’m like, Dude. You’ve had some bad coaches to never hear that piece of relatively obvious wisdom right before age 22, because I feel like he was 22 at the time. And he just learned that you don’t get that side of a slider. You do have to get to the front of it. And that’s what all the bets, like I was learning a slider in my years, and this was never a good pitch for me.

It was something I was trying to add because I was [00:46:00] struggling. Guys were like, you have to get to the front of it. Like you can’t make it to like you, you kind of learned to sweep it, get to the side of it first. And now when it starts to sweep, then you’ve got to get to the front of it. And that’s how you actually get to sharply break and be hard enough and all that stuff.

But there isn’t a good way to coach of like, How you get your hand in the right position? Like the words are clunky. A friend of mine is a division one pitching coach. We were talking about this like a year or two ago. He’s like, dude, what are you, what do you tell guys when you throw the a slide? And I’m like, I don’t know either.

It’s just, it’s there’s not great, but what I’ve seen over time, because I’ve taught a lot of kids, sliders, and some of them became really, really good. It’s just the more they throw it and you give them feedback and you tell them, Hey, that one, it was good like that. When you got too much on the side, Hmm.

That’s, it’s just, it takes a lot of repetitions and just staying on them and give them feedback. I think that’s really the biggest thing. Anyway,

Bobby Stevens: it’s a hard it’s. I feel like kids that throw good sliders [00:47:00] just are trying to throw good curve balls and they just find it somehow in that trial and error kind of how you said,

Dan Blewett: as opposed to

Bobby Stevens: like, so kind of relate back to them.

We’re were talking about earlier, but tryouts, you know, when I have a kid that’s trying not to pitch, he’s a high school kid. I’m like, what do you throw? And it’ll

Dan Blewett: tell me. And

Bobby Stevens: some of the kids like fast ball curve, ball change up, and then some guys will come in like fastball, two seam curve, ball slider.

Change up splitter, like, okay. Pick, pick your two best ones and throw like, I don’t have all day here. Give me your two best pitches.

Dan Blewett: You don’t

Bobby Stevens: throw seven pitches. You throw one fast ball and you probably throw one breaking ball. That’s breaks once.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. And I wonder if I have a video on this, actually not.

I think about it because that’s, I preach that to the gym. I beat that to death. And number one, your two seamer. Isn’t a second pitch. So you don’t have to list them both. Like if you throw a fast ball, if you throw a [00:48:00] two seamer, great. You don’t need to say fastball. Oh. And Anna to sing. We’re like, they’re the same bitch.

That’s a fastball.

Bobby Stevens: My favorite is when they, when they’re talking about signs to the catcher and it’s ones, fastball two is two seam three is curve. It’s like, no. Okay guys, please stop that.

Dan Blewett: Well, that’s the thing about baseball. There’s so many things that are like, not proper. That seemed to make sense.

Again, this goes back to like me being in Turkey last year in April, when I had to like, Hey, no, that’s not how you warm up. You don’t just go in a big circle and throw the ball to each other. Like you have to line up. And this is where you stand. This is how you throw it around. Like, there’s so many little nuances and that’s another one that I would never even have thought about.

So you brought it up is like,

Bobby Stevens: you don’t realize that you have to teach, like

Dan Blewett: yeah, exactly.

Bobby Stevens: I find myself correcting. Like around the horn, like after, you know, a routine play, like, you know, put the third throw to first and I find myself correcting the guy, throwing it around the horn. Like I’m a big, you go in order.

You throw it second to short to third. And if you skip the second base, [00:49:00] when you go right to short, then he goes right to third. Like, I don’t go. Yeah, I don’t go

Dan Blewett: back. I thought you go to short first, then second, then third. Never. I’ve never,

Bobby Stevens: never. So a lot of times at a normal play, like let’s say a ball hits the left side of the infield, the third basement, the second basement should be sprinting the backup first.

Like

Dan Blewett: he should

Bobby Stevens: out of the opposite of his instincts to go away from the ball. So if he’s doing it correctly, he ends up behind the first basement. So either flip it to him or you throw it a short and then the shortstop just kinda goes right back to third. Like you kind of skipped the second basement. I find myself correcting that a lot.

I also find myself correcting the Throwdown after a strikeout. Third to short to second back to third, not third, second short. And in the short sellers, just like flip it to the pitcher guys. Stop, stop that, give

Dan Blewett: it back to their basement. So you don’t want them to have that long throw. Why not have the longer throw.

Bobby Stevens: I don’t know, I’ve just never done. I’ve never, I don’t [00:50:00] like the way that law, I don’t like the way the cross and field action looks as an infield snob. So I always go in order and let the second basement have the

Dan Blewett: throw. How do they do it in pro ball? I’ve

Bobby Stevens: always done it that way in pro ball. Oh third. A short to second.

Yeah.

Dan Blewett: I’ve also thing that, yeah, if that was a multiple choice and they’re like, does the first basement throw it to the shortstop first or the second basement first? Oh,

Bobby Stevens: it’s not

Dan Blewett: a toss up for now

Bobby Stevens: turnover. I more see like the, like it’ll it. Won’t. And would the third basement or, or the first, or they’ll incorporate the first base mounted on a strikeout, like third, this.

Second to short the first and then they’ll flip it to the pitcher. This is just like a, I mean, I’m talking like

Dan Blewett: high school is that time, has it changed versus righty, first base versus lefty first base because in my mind, as a variety first base and catching that throw from shorter third, that’s a kind of an awkward turn to them.

Throw it to where the second basement is. You know what I mean? Like he’s got to [00:51:00] turn his hips a long way, whereas if you’re a lefty first baseman, it’s just like, see ya. Whereas it’s a less awkward throw for the righty first placement to throw it a short,

Bobby Stevens: I re I don’t remember touching the ball that often on a throw around as a second baseman,

Dan Blewett: unless the first basement just flipped it to me.

Bobby Stevens: I don’t remember. I mean, it’s not that it’s wrong. It’s kind of preference and that’s my preference, but I just find myself correcting it

Dan Blewett: all the time,

Bobby Stevens: because probably, I would say 50% of time, we don’t even throw it around. Like, we’ll make the play in the first place. We’ll just throw it to the pitcher.

It’s like, no.

Dan Blewett: Yeah, we throw it all around. We throw that

Bobby Stevens: ball around. Whew. What, so what’s the first thing you put the old day hot sauce on that. You’re caressing it in front of me.

Dan Blewett: Well, like I said, it’s not, this is not a change in my life because this is pretty much what I’ve been already making on my own.

I’m like, what’s the

Bobby Stevens: first food in your, in your top three foods. What does old Bay go on?

[00:52:00] Dan Blewett: Hot sauce?

Bobby Stevens: Is it pizza?

Dan Blewett: It’s just chicken. No, I don’t. I don’t do hot sauce on pizza. No pizza gets ranch. If it’s a frozen pizza, otherwise there’s nothing just pizza by itself. This will go on chicken. Some chicken thighs, some black, black, black beans and rice later on today, I got to make some food for second half of my week, but that’s about it.

Just chicken. I don’t actually eat much red meat anymore. The other thing I want to mention about that fragile book, which I also thought was interesting, which was part of the reason, the reason I walked the grocery store this morning was that. He said, look for years, this idea of breakfast has been God eat breakfast to start the day off.

Right? Right. He’s like, what animal can you name in its evolution? And still today, including humans wakes up and has food to eat. Right. Then humans that’s it. But even, but like 300 years ago, did humans. No, he went to hunt for it. Exactly. He’s like, [00:53:00] that’s why I, he said I try to move and do something active before I eat anything.

And I think that’s really smart. I think that’s a really smart idea. So I’m going to actually try to do something, even if it’s just like today, like my walk was like a half a mile up and back. So it was like a mile ish. And that’s something where there probably is something to be said for that, that your body’s kind of built that way to burn some calories, get things going, and that probably helps keep your body fat down for sure.

Sure.

Bobby Stevens: Are you an intermittent fasting

Dan Blewett: guy? No, I think that’s annoying, although I do pretty much just eat like two big meals a day. These days. And, and also you often open a third, but I, I don’t have to eat very much. I don’t really like to, I

Bobby Stevens: would say you probably do it unknowingly for like, I did it unknowingly for a really long time.

I never ate breakfast. I would never, I’m not a breakfast person. So if you think about it, when you, you probably stop eating at, let’s see, even at it’s called 11 o’clock at night. Like, I probably wouldn’t [00:54:00] eat until the following, like afternoon at the earliest. Like you kind of go work out in the morning, especially when I was still playing, you worked out, you hit or you hit and you go work out, then you eat.

So you’re probably eating like 12 one o’clock. So you’re really kind of like practicing it without knowing it. I don’t know if we’ve had any cancer, attributions of

Dan Blewett: fitness

Bobby Stevens: because I wasn’t. Trying to do it. Like I wasn’t noticeably like trying to

Dan Blewett: intermittent fast, but yeah, I’m

Bobby Stevens: with you like breakfast other than coffee, maybe I’m not.

I’m not

Dan Blewett: on it. Yeah. My, well, my body doesn’t like eating that much until like 10 o’clock anyway, but I, like I said, I think the idea of just doing something to get the body moving before eating food, it does seem like that it’s a time tested thing that nature does animals have to go hunt. Before they eat humans used to have to go gather something before they ate.

Now. I’m sure that’s certainly not the rule because when you start to have a society, you’re gonna start to keep some food around to like, you know, but then again, I don’t know [00:55:00] how, what farms are like. I don’t know that every farm back in the day, 200 years ago, like, did you wake up and have food? Or it’s like, Hey, wake up, go do a couple chores, go milk the cows, go do these bunch of things.

Then come in for breakfast. I don’t have any, I don’t know if that was, which was the norm, but I imagine you probably did some chores before. Definitely. You

Bobby Stevens: definitely had things you had to do, right. Or right in the morning, as soon as the rooster crows, you had something to do.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. Probably, you know, from like five to 7:00 AM or something, and then eat a nice breakfast at seven.

You’ve already done some stuff. So I think there’s something to that. And again, this just goes backwards. Yeah. And this just goes back to the idea of like, what has time proven to be a routine or normal or. Good for, for humans over the longterm. And that’s probably one of them. Well,

Bobby Stevens: exercise has exercise proven to be a

Dan Blewett: well, exercise is weird because we used to have to do so much physical stuff.

Like if you lived obviously as a Hunter gatherer, [00:56:00] that speaks for itself, but then if you live on a farm, I mean, you’re active all day. Right? I have my new Apple watch and attracts my, and I walk in a given week. Probably 30 miles now. Cause I live in a city. Um, yesterday was like, uh, I had 6.3 miles. I walk, let’s go through my walking here.

Robert yesterday 6.3 miles. Sunday was a big one. Uh, Sunday, 5.2 miles, Saturday, 12 and a half miles. Friday two miles, Thursday, two miles, Wednesday, 8.7 miles Tuesday. So I don’t know. It varies. I don’t walk as much. I’ll take my scooter when I’m going to lift weights that day, because it just like takes too much time sometimes just to walk that many miles a day.

Um, but yeah, I’m probably around 30 a week. Ish. [00:57:00] And that’s, I think a pretty normal thing for a human to do, especially if you’re working on a farm, that’d be like, no sweat. Like you’d be walking way more than that and given a week. So that was really exercise, swinging a pickax and all that stuff. Yeah.

Bobby Stevens: You get, when you’re just walk like a year when

Dan Blewett: I was in, when we went to a years, a lot of extra calories.

Oh man, your walk,

Bobby Stevens: you walk everywhere. You’re walking upstairs, downhills like. It’s basically their mode. That’s their mode of transportation mature the majority of the time, because people don’t leave like their village, essentially. Like in Europe, a lot of things happen within a square mile.

Dan Blewett: Well, is your neighborhood in Chicago walkable?

If you walk a lot of places

Bobby Stevens: you wouldn’t walk to, like the grocery store is probably a mile, which isn’t bad, but then you’re, if you’re walking back with groceries, it’s like, it’s not a

Dan Blewett: sissy. It’s just not like it’s good for your forums. Come on, man.

Bobby Stevens: That’s good. I agree. And you could steal a card if you really needed to just re roll it down the streets.

It’s not like a, it’s not scenic, [00:58:00] uh, like a scenic walk. Like you’re basically walking a lot, like where I’m at, I’m walking along the busy streets, essentially, which is not really like, it’s a boring walk. Just cars. It’s not like you’re walking on. Like I’d been to DC, like walking in DC, especially when you get by like the national model, a lot of stuff.

It’s just kind of like wide open space, not really cars flying past you as much.

Dan Blewett: That’s true. But you don’t get groceries at the Lincoln Memorial. I mean, sure you do. Although DC is DC is a lot more, uh, neighborhood. It gets neighborhoody quick. Well, not neighborhoody, but just like. The way, my walk from my grocery stores through a lot of row homes that are like different pastel colors and there’s tons of trees on every street.

So it’s like not an unpleasant walk by any means. So nice. Pretty nice walk. And you’re gonna, you can easily avoid main roads without getting derailers. Chicago. Maybe you can’t quite as much. No, we really can’t.

Bobby Stevens: But yeah. All right, let me, uh, I want to end on this cause I texted you this yesterday and it kind of goes back to our [00:59:00] looting.

Top three places you would loot Dan, you got free rein. Cause I, cause I had Texas. So this, this is a text message conversation between Dan and I and they, the Chicago scanner tweets out all this stuff that happens in Chicago. And the one tweet I saw said, they’re back at old Navy. It’s like, why did you need to go back into, why did you go loot all the stores you go to old Navy and then you returned to old Navy.

Why? So then I prompted me to ask Dan what his top three would be. I assume old Navy is not in your top three.

Dan Blewett: Well, you have to clarify, are we reselling or are we keeping, because that’s a very big difference.

Bobby Stevens: We’re going to keep, we’re going to keep.

Dan Blewett: Okay. Um, if it’s a keep store, then Apple store. Oh, I’d get I’d.

I’d try to, I mean, you see such, so frantic trying to find that the model of laptop that [01:00:00] you really want the really expensive one. They have one in stock, the Tumi Tumi luggage store. That’s one of my favorite brands. I have lots of Tumi items, but I actually buy them used. And I actually resell them a lot.

If I like find one, that’s a deal I’ll just buy and resell it for a profit once in a while. It’s kind of fun. Uh, but to me luggage, I like a lot. And then my other one, that’s a good question. I don’t know. Give me, give me your, give me your list and then I’ll, I’ll fill my third.

Bobby Stevens: So I’m going with, do you know what micro center is?

Dan Blewett: No

Bobby Stevens: micro centers, like a, it’s like a niche best buy. It’s kind of like best buy, but it’s got more like higher quality stuff, I would say. So I’m going to micro center. I don’t want to, I don’t want to limit myself to Apple products. Maybe I want to, maybe

Dan Blewett: I want to, I got my answer now, but I’ll wait till you finish.

Okay. So I’m

Bobby Stevens: definitely going. I’m definitely going to micro center. I’m definitely [01:01:00] going, like I’m gonna go whole foods. And just stock up on organic groceries. I’m looking at I’m I’m functional. Dan I’m functional here. All right. Give me your third. Cause I want to think about it. Cause this third one is,

Dan Blewett: does it have to be local to DC or can it be glued anywhere?

B and H photo video when you are, what is that? BNH is similar to micro center. It’s a, it’s a pretty big, very cool. So if you walk in there, they have all these, uh, shipping rails above. So there’s boxes just like zipping around on this, on like a, what are those moving things called an F in a factory floor,

Bobby Stevens: uh,

Dan Blewett: assembly, not assembly lines, but whatever I do today to do anyway, the cool store, but they just have tons of, if you want a $5,000 camera or a $5,000 microphone or.

They just have lots of high end photo electronics, cool texts. Like you said, [01:02:00] like way beyond a best buy. Like that’s a great place to, just to go. All right. So you got BNA

Bobby Stevens: BNA photo

Dan Blewett: UNH BNH photo. I think I said we wouldn’t need to go to the Apple store though. Cause they have, Oh, they, so the question, so there’s all, isn’t the question

Bobby Stevens: I’m going.

I’m going Menards. And if you’ve been to a big Monarch, have you been to Menards? You have to. I’m

Dan Blewett: sure. He’d be, of course it’s so much better than Lowe’s or home Depot. Oh

Bobby Stevens: yeah. I can get, I can grocery. You can do everything. I’m an arts. Like I’d have to bring a, I almost want to Rob a U hall first. So I re let’s let me replace whole foods with you haul.

Dan Blewett: The only thing about Menards for alluding standpoint is Menards is more. They have less brand name stuff. They have lower end stuff, which I appreciate because you can buy, like, everything is expensive and home Depot or Lowe’s like stuff that shouldn’t be expensive. Like you need like one type of screwdriver, like one of this, and it’s like $15.

Or like you just like, feel [01:03:00] used menorahs. You can go, you can go in there and get some, some cheap tool that you don’t need to be an expensive tool. Like there’s a time to buy expensive tools and there’s a time not to Menards. You can go in there and save, actually save a lot of money. Like their jingle says, but if I was going to loot, but I think I go to home Depot because they have all the brand name, power tools as does Lowe’s they have more high end stuff at those two stores.

Bobby Stevens: Good stuff. I just like Menards better though.

Dan Blewett: Well, yeah, if I’m spending money, I hope to never go to home Depot or Lowe’s ever again, maybe that’s it. Then

Bobby Stevens: maybe Menard, whoever he is somewhere so much that I will lose home Depot. So instead to save him the hassle. Maybe that’s maybe that’s the player

Dan Blewett: alluding is about getting high end stuff.

That’s what looting is. I mean, it’s not, but if we’re not really, if we’re not

Bobby Stevens: reselling, like if we were reselling, I’d be at that, like, it’s like the Prada store and the, and the Gucci store,

Dan Blewett: just

Bobby Stevens: collecting just jewelry and all kinds of [01:04:00] stuff.

Dan Blewett: You’ve gotta be a certain kind of person to want, like Gucci stuff though.

It’s just like a buddy or like, I would never wear anything Gucci ever, but people buy it range. I know, but yeah, I wouldn’t lose it cause it’s like a strange, strange style. I don’t know. You’re like very gaudy. It’s very gaudy.

Bobby Stevens: You’re robbing us. You’re having a Tumi store.

Dan Blewett: Yeah. To me, backpacks and luggage, legit their wallets.

I have a wallet. I have a backpack, a Samsonite. Oh for sure. I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s classy Plaza. You, you

Bobby Stevens: see this backpack.

Dan Blewett: So the classy, this is a classy to me, backpack. You

Bobby Stevens: need a high duty backpack or heavy duty backpack?

Dan Blewett: I do. And that’s a $500 backpack, but I bought it for 120 bucks. He used, and it was like perfect condition and I can smell it again and I could sell it again for two 50 anytime I wanted to.

So you basically it’s like playing the stock. It’s like playing the stock market. Bobby.

[01:05:00] Bobby Stevens: I would steal somebody’s stock tips. That’s what I would steal. I lose somebody stock information, Warren

Dan Blewett: Buffett’s stock information. Well, oddly enough, and we’re getting off topic and we’re going to end here in a second, but a lot of my electronics gear, my camera gear, I bought used at a really good price and then resold it and then took the profit and bought the thing that I actually wanted.

Like my first camera that I did the first time I bought an actual camera do YouTube videos. I got a pretty decent one use for like two 50. I sold it for three 50 and then bought another slightly more expensive used camera and then sold that for a profit too. Before I finally bought my current camera, which was about a grand.

So I like kind of trading up like magic, magic beans. I’ve done a bunch of different times actually.

Bobby Stevens: You are that you are the secondhand wizard? Cause I did. I texted Dan, I’m looking for dumbbells more dumbbells for my weight room and I texted Dan, like, I know this is your, [01:06:00] this is, this is where you thrive.

If there’s a deal to be found was, and blue, it

Dan Blewett: has found it. Well, we, we really did because when I had my Academy, I piece together that gym. With, uh, surplus equipment. So I bought one plates from Indiana state penitentiary penitentiary, and at least. 15% of them were sh they had spiral cracks. A lot of them were broken because I’m sure inmates were like doing cleans and those put him on the floor on the concrete.

Like you never see a broken way plate. Most of you listening. I’d never heard, never seen a broken way play. We had a lot of broken blades. Um, I bought tons of racks from, from old high schools that upgraded their weight room and they have to, because they’re a public school, they have to surplus auction their stuff off.

They can’t just sell to some guy. Um, we bought Iowa state’s old, uh, way plates, their entire yeah, dumbbells. So when we actually, so the business, we probably made a profit on our equipment. We [01:07:00] probably, if I had added up over the years, how much we actually spent versus how much it was worth when we sold it, then we probably made money on our, on our equipment because we just bought it so cheap.

Like I got three that dumbbell set was like a $25,000 set that I got for three grand. I’m like, you’re never going to not make your money back on that because it’s worth, it’s worth a lot of money to people. If you can hold out long enough.

Bobby Stevens: All right. So get

Dan Blewett: out of my first and my first, my first hall, I got a ton of stuff from my high school and I bought way more than I needed.

And I sold off individual pieces. I sold, so I spent like 1200 bucks and I got like, A bunch of power racks, a bunch of these really heavy duty well-made other pieces. And I sold off all the stuff I didn’t need and it paid for the entire lot. So I got all this equipment for free. That was like one of my first big purchases.

I was super pumped about it. You can’t always get those. Yeah. I need you to do that. Dan’s [01:08:00] buying club.

Bobby Stevens: We should start. We you’re good at this. This is where this is where you thrive.

Dan Blewett: No, that’s more like, just like a side hustle slash hobby. And sometimes I just need to do that on a big scale in the stock market day trading.

Alright, well catch us a later, during the week, we’re going to have recorded episodes cause I’m going on vacation from Friday to Friday. So you’ll still hear us, but it’ll be not live. So hope to see you back here soon, unless Bobby wants to go, do you want to have a guest guest host? I mean,

Bobby Stevens: I am cohost of the year, but I don’t know if I can be lead host.

Dan Blewett: You can guess those it’s time to get, earn your wings, man. You could find you somebody.

Bobby Stevens: I do need, I need, I need someone with some, some antagonistic qualities.

Dan Blewett: We had a good, we, we actually had a frustrated, a YouTube message today. So at nine 20. Some guy says [01:09:00] hi, and then he says baseball or Corona two question marks and then says later.

So I guess he didn’t like our art, I guess he didn’t like are bickering about, uh, vaccines.

Bobby Stevens: Oh, cares. Do you know what, tell that guy not to listen then.

Dan Blewett: Well, he’s probably, he’s not probably,

Bobby Stevens: he’s probably Clark. It’s probably one of our friends we’re

Dan Blewett: dead to him. It was his name. It says Trevor Hamilton, if that’s a real person.

So Trevor, if you’re out there listening, sorry, you hate the show and sorry that you hate America, but sometimes Bobby and I bicker at each other and oddly enough, we’re still friends for it. We’re on Twitter. Everyone just hates each other and blocks each other. So last,

Bobby Stevens: last thing.

Dan Blewett: Dunno. It’s fine.

Bobby Stevens: Am, uh, I think Brooklyn’s getting better onto your Twitter.

She’s getting better. I haven’t commented that recently and I need to get back to it, but she is getting better at it. So Brooklyn, if you’re out there kudos to you are you’re really, [01:10:00] you’re really getting the tone of a Dan

Dan Blewett: blew it. She’s not out there, but, um, But yeah. Good job. Good job. Good job. Brookie Wook.

She’s a Marie posting one of my content, but most of the actual things are, are coming from me few and far between, or is it, or is it is it’s a Brooklyn suite. All right. We will see you here later in the week on the morning brush bag. Be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, leave us a review. It helps us.

We would appreciate it and we’ll see you here next time. So

Bobby Stevens: yeah.